RE: sega outrun stuck in reset

From: James Bright <james_at_quarterarcade.com>
Date: Mon Apr 25 2005 - 13:24:20 EDT

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>As far as the program logic goes &#8211;
it&#8217;s pretty simple. It just creates a menu and then fills in the
parameters for RAM, ROMs, etc. So there could definitely be other issues such
as the virtual machine not being 100% correct, or the board requiring a disable
watchdog line. Personally I&#8217;ve never worked on Outrun. </span></font></p>

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 style='font-size:10.0pt;color:maroon'>James Bright</span></font><font size=2
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www.QuarterArcade.com<br>
Restored </span></font><font size=2 color=maroon><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
 color:maroon'>Arcade</span></font><font size=2 color=maroon><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:maroon'> Games for your Home </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com
[mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b></span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Mark</span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Hooks<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Sunday, April
 24, 2005</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>10:36 PM</span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Technical Tools Mail List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Techtoolslist] sega
outrun stuck in reset</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>James,</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I helped him straighten it out to where&nbsp;the
script&nbsp;would compile properly without errors. Can there still be
&quot;hidden&quot; errors? My tested scripts&nbsp;seem to run OK, but I don't
have an Outrun board to check&nbsp;this one&nbsp;with.</span></font></p>

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font-family:Arial'>Mark Hooks</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:james@quarterarcade.com" title="james@quarterarcade.com">James
Bright</a> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:techtoolslist@flippers.com" title="techtoolslist@flippers.com">'Technical
Tools Mail List'</a> ; <a href="mailto:ajcrm125@gmail.com"
title="ajcrm125@gmail.com">'Adam Courchesne'</a> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sunday, April 24,
 2005</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>9:52 PM</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE:
[Techtoolslist] sega outrun stuck in reset</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Just to be clear&#8230; any script
generated by tech.quarterarcade.com (I am assuming this is what Tony means by
&#8220;tried to get the outrun script from fide to run&#8221;) should be looked
over by the operator and adjusted appropriately. It&#8217;s just a starting
point, and it is frequently incorrect because the virtual machines in MAME
aren&#8217;t 100% accurate. Also, the script generator isn&#8217;t smart enough
to always generate legal subroutine names&#8230; that&#8217;s what you get for
free web-based utilities </span></font><font size=2 color=maroon
face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:maroon'>J</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>I think this was covered before, but
based on recent postings, I&#8217;d like to re-emphasize the point &#8230; </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Also, FWIW, I have never used the LEARN
function&#8230;. Because the schemas and the MAME source code tell you a lot
more than LEARN can.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Good luck. </span></font></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>(I&#8217;m glad to hear that several
people are using FIDE. It&#8217;s possible in the future if the PODs get a
software driver that I&#8217;d update the software and fix a lot of things I
wasn&#8217;t happy with&#8230;.) </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>JB</span></font></p>

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<p><font size=2 color=maroon face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;color:maroon'>--James Bright<br>
www.QuarterArcade.com<br>
Restored </span></font><font size=2 color=maroon><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
 color:maroon'>Arcade</span></font><font size=2 color=maroon><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:maroon'> Games for your Home </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>tony<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Sunday, April
 24, 2005</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>9:27 PM</span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Adam Courchesne; Technical
Tools Mail List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Techtoolslist] sega
outrun stuck in reset</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>i took a known good board set and tried the same thing
running</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>&nbsp;fluke learn start 0 - ffff </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>i just get pod timed out</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>or pod timed out and reset when i hold the reset line high</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>and &nbsp;tried to get the outrun script from fide to run
it will not go past address 0000</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>i did try to set trap active to &quot;no&quot; and pod
&nbsp;just times out</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>has anyone ran a script on this board</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>i have 2 sets 1 good cpu and 1 bad cpu and 2 good video</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>the fluke does the same with the good and bad cup brd</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>on the good cpu board it will run the game with run uut</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>the bad just keeps resetting neither will let the fluke run</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>i did check the pod with a bus test (self test) it comes up
fine</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>i must be missing something</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>any help ??</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>thanks tony<br>
On </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Tahoma'>Sun, 24 Apr 2005</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font
 size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>18:42:33</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> -0400,
Adam Courchesne wrote:<br>
<font color=maroon><span style='color:maroon'>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;Hit setup on the
9010, hit more until you get to 'set trap active</span></font><br>
<font color=maroon><span style='color:maroon'>&gt;&gt;</span></font><br>
<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>&gt;&nbsp;force line' set it to 'no'
.. no &gt;need to disable WD.</span></font><br>
<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>&gt;</span></font><br>
<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>&gt;&nbsp;Assuming the reset signal
is only used to reset the micro. &nbsp;If it</span></font><br>
<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>&gt;&nbsp;goes to other registers,
etc you &nbsp;could run into problems getting</span></font><br>
<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>&gt;&nbsp;the board to run. -Adam
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