Re: Re: 6100 HV transformer in an Amplifone HV PCB

From: simon hanlon <simonjhanlon_at_btopenworld.com>
Date: Mon Mar 13 2006 - 12:39:39 EST

This is not using the 6100 cage just the transformer in the Amp HV PCB
----- Original Message -----
From: <rgonyer@mchsi.com>
To: <vectorlist@vectorlist.org>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: Re: VECTOR: 6100 HV transformer in an Amplifone HV PCB

> There are step by step instructions on how to do this already online, I
> have
> seen them.
>
> Of course I don't remember where, but I'm sure it could be found.
>
>
>> Sorry to chime in late, but I recall an ebay auction several years back-
>> it had
>> an amplifone w/ a 6100 cage. The description read "yes, what you see is
>> a 6100
>> HV cage running on an amplifone- it works (if you know what you're
>> doing)"
>>
>> hope your mod works out,
>> James Hagen
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > From: "simon hanlon" <simonjhanlon@btopenworld.com>
>> > Date: 2006/03/13 Mon AM 07:36:23 CST
>> > To: <vectorlist@vectorlist.org>
>> > Subject: Re: VECTOR: 6100 HV transformer in an Amplifone HV PCB
>> >
>> > I now get aB+voltage of 181v !! I tried adjusting the frequency of the
>> > 555
>> > and I can adjust B+ from around 150 to 200 so its looking good. I also
>> > found
>> > the 7924 was fried by the RED so I will replace that and try it in the
>> > game.
>> > finger crossed
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "simon hanlon" <simonjhanlon@btopenworld.com>
>> > To: <vectorlist@vectorlist.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:22 PM
>> > Subject: Re: VECTOR: 6100 HV transformer in an Amplifone HV PCB
>> >
>> >
>> > > Ok I replaced the Bu406d last night as the old RED killed it. This
>> > > morning
>> > > I drilled some holes in the Amplifone HV PCB, cut all the unsed pins
>> > > off
>> > > the WG transformer and soldered it in place. I wired the HV pcb up to
>> > > 4x
>> > > 12v nicads in a +24 -24 setup. I have a 12v bulb across the heater
>> > > output
>> > > and I'm getting 6v AC, I have focus, screen voltages and also Anode
>> > > voltage but the B+ is missing. I need to add a 10uf 350v cap across
>> > > the
>> > > b+diode and the -24v supply and that should work also. I am going to
>> > > try
>> > > it on the tube later and see if it gives a good picture.
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "simon hanlon" <simonjhanlon@btopenworld.com>
>> > > To: <vectorlist@vectorlist.org>
>> > > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:06 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: VECTOR: 6100 HV transformer in an Amplifone HV PCB
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Yeah will do John, the later 6100 had over voltage protection
>> > >> similar to
>> > >> the Amplifones, the wire that goes to Gnd from the focus block
>> > >> instead
>> > >> goes to the base of a 3904 so I will make sure that is connected
>> > >> the
>> > >> same way. I have to drill some holes in the Amp PCB to fit the
>> > >> Transformer and run some wire links. The focus block fits in place
>> > >> of the
>> > >> old Amp one. I will also measure the HV with and without the MCI
>> > >> can. The
>> > >> 6100 HV transformer has a few windings that aren't used....looks
>> > >> like a
>> > >> Raster flyback to me, didn't the Disco use this Transformer?
>> > >> I have just fitted a 25" Crt to my SW so don't worry, there is no
>> > >> way I
>> > >> am going to ruin that by being careless!
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "John Robertson" <jrr@flippers.com>
>> > >> To: <vectorlist@vectorlist.org>
>> > >> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:44 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: VECTOR: 6100 HV transformer in an Amplifone HV PCB
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>> Before you hook it up to a tube, it would be best to do a power up
>> > >>> test
>> > >>> using a HV probe to verify that you get only 22KV or so. Much more
>> > >>> than
>> > >>> (28KV+?) that can lead to soft x-rays...that was one other reason I
>> > >>> went
>> > >>> with my raster kludge, the raster monitors had overvoltage shutdown
>> > >>> built in.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> John :-#)#
>> > >>>
>> > >>> At 7:54 PM +0000 3/12/06, simon hanlon wrote:
>> > >>>>The heater output will be the same as used by the Amp as all it is
>> > >>>>is a
>> > >>>>bit of wire wrapped around the core 3 times and connected to ground
>> > >>>>by a
>> > >>>>.3ohm resistor, I will measure for 6v before connecting to the CRT.
>> > >>>>I
>> > >>>>have notice that I will need a 15ohm resistor and a 350v 10uf cap
>> > >>>>to get
>> > >>>>the 180 b+
>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "peter jones"
>> > >>>><highwayman2000@mail.ru>
>> > >>>>To: <vectorlist@vectorlist.org>
>> > >>>>Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:50 PM
>> > >>>>Subject: Re: VECTOR: 6100 HV transformer in an Amplifone HV PCB
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>Hmmm.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>make sure you use a hv probe and stand at the *side* of the tube,
>> > >>>>>not
>> > >>>>>infront or behind it.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>and the heater probably wont work, or it will blow the tube
>> > >>>>>element.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>if the wg has a different number of primary turns then the heater
>> > >>>>>output will be wrong - maybe very wrong.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
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