Re: Modern replacements / xref for deflection transistors

From: Rodger Boots <rlboots2_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat Nov 24 2012 - 20:08:51 EST

MPSU07 1 watt (no heatsink), 10 watts with heatsink.
ZTX653 1 watt (no heatsink AT ROOM TEMPERATURE), 2.5 watts with heatsink AT
ROOM TEMPERATURE.
If the MPSU07 is being used WITHOUT a heatsink the ZTX653 WITH a heatsink
should work.
A TO-92 case part isn't going to be reliable replacing a heatsinked
MPSUanything.
Also, remember to check secondary breakdown ratings on any parts being used
with more that 20 volts.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM, John Robertson <pinball@telus.net> wrote:

> **
> ZTX653 = 2A continuous, 100Vceo, 175mhz...
>
> Who would have guessed!
>
> John :-#)#
>
>
> Andrew Welburn wrote:
>
> Really? A T0-92 replacing the original? (Mpsu07)
>
> Andrew Welburn (mobile)www.andys-arcade.com
>
> On 24 Nov 2012, at 12:36, "William Boucher" <wboucher6@cogeco.ca> <wboucher6@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> I wish I could unsend my previous message and replace it with this one. I was at work and a bit distracted when I type the first one. Replacing a 2A part with a 0.5A part obviously only works under certain conditions. I wouldn't want that advice to lead to failures in other applications so I've updated the list so that it is not application dependent. The following replacements should always work.
>
>
> MPSU57 = PNP, 100V, 2A, 150 MHz, hfe = 140 @ 50mA, 65 @ 250 mA, 30 @ 500 mA
> Replace with ZTX753http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ZTX753/ZTX753-ND/92510
>
>
> MPSU60 = PNP, 300V, 0.5A, 60 MHz, hfe = 25 @ 1mA, 30 @ 10 mA, 30 @ 30 mA
> Replace with MPSW92Rhttp://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MPSW92RLRAG/MPSW92RLRAGOSCT-ND/1967202?cur=USD
>
>
> MPSU07 = NPN, 100V, 2A, 150 MHz, hfe = 110 @ 50mA, 65 @ 250 mA, 33 @ 500 mA
> Replace with ZTX653http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ZTX653/ZTX653-ND/92504
>
>
> MPSU10 = NPN, 300V, 0.5A, 45 MHz, hfe = 25 @ 1mA, 40 @ 10 mA, 40 @ 30 mA
> Replace with MPSW42Ghttp://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MPSW42G/MPSW42GOS-ND/1482545?cur=USD
>
>
> William Boucherhttp://www.biltronix.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <wboucher6@cogeco.ca> <wboucher6@cogeco.ca>
> To: <vectorlist@vectorlist.org> <vectorlist@vectorlist.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 3:38 PM
> Subject: re: VECTOR: Modern replacements / xref for deflection transistors
>
>
>
>
> Regarding replacing MPSU57 with MPSA56, it would be much better to use MPSW92R...http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MPSW92RLRAG/MPSW92RLRAGOSCT-ND/1967202?cur=USD
>
> however, an ideal replacement (much closer equivelency) component would be the ZTX753...http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ZTX753/ZTX753-ND/92510
>
> The NPN compliment to this would be the ZTX653...http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ZTX653/ZTX653-ND/92504
>
> A good sub for MPSU07 is MPSW42G...http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MPSW42G/MPSW42GOS-ND/1482545?cur=USD
> Also, the MPSU10 can also replace the 07.
>
>
> A good press-on heatsink for the newer parts is here:http://www.digikey.ca/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?WT.z_header=search_go&lang=en&keywords=HS251-ND&x=19&y=21&cur=USD
>
>
> Bill Boucherhttp://www.biltronix.com
>
>
> From: Ian Eure <ieure@mac.com> <ieure@mac.com>
> Date: Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:27 AM
> Subject: VECTOR: Modern replacements / xref for deflection transistors
> To: vectorlist@vectorlist.org
>
>
> I managed to fry a G05 board pretty well. I swapped this working board into
> a dead monitor to test, turns Q608 & Q709 had been swapped and R718 caught
> fire. Also as it happens, someone had replaced F700 on this deflection
> board with a 10A fuse, so while F600 blew and the Y section is likely fine,
> a bunch of stuff in the X section got fried.
>
> It looks to me like R718, R713, Q705, and Q706 at least are dead.
>
> Q705 is just a 2N3906, which I can get anywhere, but Q706 looks harder to
> come by. While I was digging around the internet, I found this incredibly
> great list of V2000/G05 transistors with some cross references:http://westnet.com/~chris/arcade/g05_transistor_list.pdf Unfortunately,
> this list is a good 13 years old itself, so the parts it suggests are
> obsolete as well.
>
> I went looking around and MPSU57 is long discontinued, as is SK3200 and the
> "upgrade" NTE50 part. NTE189 is the modern replacement for NTE50, but seem
> to be extremely expensive ($30) when they can be found at all. I found some
> folks saying they had successfully substituted MPSA56 for MPSU57, as well
> as MPSA05 for the MPSU07 at Q607/Q707.
>
> Has anyone successfully substituted those parts? Looking at the datasheets,
> it seems like the tolerances are somewhat lower, so I was hoping someone
> could point me in the right direction. I have a few boards I want to work
> through, so having some of these on hand will be a big help.
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