Re: Troubleshooting Star Wars

From: Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri Oct 11 2013 - 17:43:16 EDT

Ahhh ok good to know. Maybe I should get some vector RAM to get my cart up
above $10, just in case.,I have a replacement AVG coming in, so may as well
replace all the known weak spots.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Franklin Bowen
<Franklin@franklinbowen.net>wrote:

> No. The trailing E on this part number is significant!
>
>
> http://www.jameco.com/1/1/1962-68b09e-microprocessor-8-bit-external-clock-dip-40.html
>
> http://www.abra-electronics.com/products/68B09E-Central-Processing-Unit-with-External-Clock-2MHz,-DIP%252d40,-8%252dBIT.html
>
>
> --
> My generic signature
>
> On Oct 11, 2013, at 11:29, Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> While I'm shopping, is this a suitable replacement for the 68B09E
> Microprocessor?
>
> http://www.twistywristarcade.com/processors-40-pin-ics/101-68b09-mpu.html
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Awesome, thank you!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Franklin Bowen <
>> Franklin@franklinbowen.net> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.twistywristarcade.com/39-buttons-switches
>>>
>>> --
>>> My generic signature
>>>
>>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 11:18, Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> anyone know where I can get replacement dipswitches, mine are pretty
>>> smashed on my SW CPU board, I should replace them...
>>>
>>> http://forums.arcade-museum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=157221
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also I double checked and compared both the upright and sit down
>>>> harnesses. All the critical plugs and connectors have identical pins and
>>>> voltages, just the physical size of the harnesses and the number of
>>>> speakers is different.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Aye it's still a mystery.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can get Diag #1 for Game PCB Microprocessor and RAM to work by
>>>>> grounding the self test tab on the main board, grounding the diag tab and
>>>>> then turning on the power.
>>>>>
>>>>> The weird thing is that the the LEDs at CR4,5,6 do not stay on for 10
>>>>> secs, they stay on for about 2 seconds and the 5 and 6 extinguish while 4
>>>>> remains on flashing once a second. This only works if the AVG board is
>>>>> disconnected from the wiring harness, otherwise all three lights go out
>>>>> after about 2 seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tried the sound board Diagnostic test and got no beeps or sound from
>>>>> the speakers after reset.
>>>>>
>>>>> No matter what tests I perform I cannot seem to get the LEDs to stay
>>>>> on the the 10 seconds they are supposed to during diagnosis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other observations.
>>>>>
>>>>> With just the main board and sound board hooked up. Power on with no
>>>>> test or diag grounded and all DIPs set to zero at 10D, the three LEDs light
>>>>> for 2 seconds and then all go out. Reset on pin 37 is perm high at the CPU
>>>>> and goes low when the reset tab is grounded. However IRQ is permanently low.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Douglas Gauck <douglas@gauck.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please double check:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.gauck.com/arcade/SW/cockpitwiring.pdf
>>>>>> http://www.gauck.com/arcade/SW/uprightwiring.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd have just the brick, the AR2 and the main board hooked up for
>>>>>> now. How's reset?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok mystery solved I had a plug out in the center of the harness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have 11.9v on my 10.3v.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leds are randomly going on and off clciking the coin counter
>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 7:57 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <griffindodd@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok. So the black and orange go to the center pin of 15 brick. On the
>>>>>>> female side they turn into two white and orange leads. Each one goes to a
>>>>>>> three pin plug where only two pins are used and the wires are bridged with
>>>>>>> what looks like a diode. One plug goes to the coin counter the other one is
>>>>>>> empty
>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 7:53 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would be J40. It plugs into P40 (on a loose connector that
>>>>>>>> goes to power supply in bottom of cabinet).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have nothing on e and 18 dead as a dead dodo that died. That
>>>>>>>>> orange and black wire looks like it goes to a 9 pin connector block with no
>>>>>>>>> home.
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 7:42 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Comes to game board on connector pins E & 18.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have GOT to find a better scan of the schematics, what I have
>>>>>>>>>> is nearly unreadable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So.... I have no 10.3vun at the test tab on the game board. Does
>>>>>>>>>>> that come from the ar2 via the edge connector or is it stepped down from
>>>>>>>>>>> one of the higher voltage feeds on the board?
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 6:17 AM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The trouble shooting guide says you can remove the soundboard
>>>>>>>>>>>> to do these tests
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 4:25 AM, "Douglas Gauck" <douglas@gauck.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really? I had my main board on the bench all by itself. What
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it did need was the 10.3 (in fact I hooked up all voltages -5, +5, +10.3
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and +12)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Rodger Boots <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reset not going to work without sound board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interconnects are good. No I didn't have the sound board
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed during these tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 9:25 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reset comes indirectly through sound board. Do you have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound board installed and are interconnect cables in good shape?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 11:07 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All my clocks test good on my oscilloscope the only one I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't found a test point for is 1.5mhz where is that point.? Got a solid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mhz at E and Q though at the cpu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 9:05 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Start looking for where these come from and work your way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back. You did check for missing/broken crystal, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 11:00 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep both still low with CPU removed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 8:55 PM, "Rodger Boots" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rlboots2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could be, remove the CPU and see if they are still low.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That will tell you if it is the CPU or the board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 10:50 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys. Troubleshooting my non booting star wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> board set.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checked all my voltages and clicks they look good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firq, NMI and halt are all high
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However reset is permanently low as is Irq at the CPU.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas where to go from here? Bad CPU?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm following the star wars troubleshooting guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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