Re: Apparently I missed the memo on CRT monitors?

From: Mark E Davidson <Mark_at_basementarcade.com>
Date: Thu Jun 18 2009 - 19:39:49 EDT

Not to mention that LCDs are no good for gun games.

-=Mark=-

Tim Soderstrom wrote:
> Yeah I was wondering about that. Most panels for arcades that I've
> seen appear to be TN panels. Which for old skewl games would be just
> fine (the color space was too small to care in that case) if it wasn't
> for the viewing angle issues.
>
> I'm more concerned about things like (the lack of) scanlines and
> overall look of the picture. My concern is that the CGA output to the
> LCD just gets up-sampled (poorly would be my guess) so that it looks
> like ugly blocks. The lack of scanlines, for instance, would make it
> look quite unnatural. Similar to running Ms. Pac-Man on MAME but
> without adding any of the nice visual emulated affects (which actually
> do include scanlines). Even then, you still don't get the
> characteristic curved glass look, etc.
>
> The problem I have is that my real monitor is almost too real :) It's
> the infamous K4600 and while it works for the most part (I installed a
> cap kit a few years ago), the red electron gun is slightly misaligned
> such that red tones bleed downward, getting worse towards the bottom
> right of the screen (as it positioned in the cab). There's also a
> slight bend down the right side of the screen. I've tried to fix that
> as much as I could but was never able to eliminate it. I had hoped to
> buy a new CRT before they ran out so I could have a more modern screen
> with no burn-in.
>
> I'm certainly not above an LCD, but I'm quite skeptical that it will
> reproduce the original look enough for me to even consider it at the
> moment. :/ Unfortunately it looks like the remaining CRT prices are
> going up and, if I can't find one, I'll have no choice but to go LCD.
>
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 1:56 AM, matt wrote:
>
>> check the viewing angle of the lcd I tried it and the colours are
>> wrong :< this was on a table top.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Soderstrom"
>> <tim@moocowproductions.org>
>> To: <rasterlist@vectorlist.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:52 AM
>> Subject: RASTER: Apparently I missed the memo on CRT monitors?
>>
>>
>>> I guess I waited a little too long to buy a new 19" CRT as they
>>> seem to be hard to come by these days :( Anyone know where I can
>>> get one for a reasonable price? You used to be able to get a 19"
>>> Happ for $159.00 and later the WG D7700 was about the same price.
>>>
>>> If not, has anyone taken the plunge and "upgraded" to a 19" LCD? I
>>> know they make conversion kits, but my fear is that my Ms. Pac-Man
>>> game will look just like I'm playing it on a PC via MAME. The
>>> authenticity is a huge reason I have the cabinet to begin with :)
>>>
>>> I read that there was some work being done to emulate the look of a
>>> CRT on an LCD (using post-processing I would imagine). Are there any
>>> solutions for this?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Tim S.
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