Re: Apparently I missed the memo on CRT monitors?

From: Tim Soderstrom <tim_at_moocowproductions.org>
Date: Thu Jun 18 2009 - 22:54:17 EDT

Ah yeah very good point. Hadn't even thought of that...

On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Mark E Davidson wrote:

> Not to mention that LCDs are no good for gun games.
>
> -=Mark=-
>
> Tim Soderstrom wrote:
>> Yeah I was wondering about that. Most panels for arcades that I've
>> seen appear to be TN panels. Which for old skewl games would be
>> just fine (the color space was too small to care in that case) if
>> it wasn't for the viewing angle issues.
>>
>> I'm more concerned about things like (the lack of) scanlines and
>> overall look of the picture. My concern is that the CGA output to
>> the LCD just gets up-sampled (poorly would be my guess) so that it
>> looks like ugly blocks. The lack of scanlines, for instance, would
>> make it look quite unnatural. Similar to running Ms. Pac-Man on
>> MAME but without adding any of the nice visual emulated affects
>> (which actually do include scanlines). Even then, you still don't
>> get the characteristic curved glass look, etc.
>>
>> The problem I have is that my real monitor is almost too real :)
>> It's the infamous K4600 and while it works for the most part (I
>> installed a cap kit a few years ago), the red electron gun is
>> slightly misaligned such that red tones bleed downward, getting
>> worse towards the bottom right of the screen (as it positioned in
>> the cab). There's also a slight bend down the right side of the
>> screen. I've tried to fix that as much as I could but was never
>> able to eliminate it. I had hoped to buy a new CRT before they ran
>> out so I could have a more modern screen with no burn-in.
>>
>> I'm certainly not above an LCD, but I'm quite skeptical that it
>> will reproduce the original look enough for me to even consider it
>> at the moment. :/ Unfortunately it looks like the remaining CRT
>> prices are going up and, if I can't find one, I'll have no choice
>> but to go LCD.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2009, at 1:56 AM, matt wrote:
>>
>>> check the viewing angle of the lcd I tried it and the colours are
>>> wrong :< this was on a table top.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Soderstrom" <tim@moocowproductions.org
>>> >
>>> To: <rasterlist@vectorlist.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:52 AM
>>> Subject: RASTER: Apparently I missed the memo on CRT monitors?
>>>
>>>
>>>> I guess I waited a little too long to buy a new 19" CRT as they
>>>> seem to be hard to come by these days :( Anyone know where I can
>>>> get one for a reasonable price? You used to be able to get a 19"
>>>> Happ for $159.00 and later the WG D7700 was about the same price.
>>>>
>>>> If not, has anyone taken the plunge and "upgraded" to a 19" LCD?
>>>> I know they make conversion kits, but my fear is that my Ms. Pac-
>>>> Man game will look just like I'm playing it on a PC via MAME.
>>>> The authenticity is a huge reason I have the cabinet to begin
>>>> with :)
>>>>
>>>> I read that there was some work being done to emulate the look of
>>>> a CRT on an LCD (using post-processing I would imagine). Are
>>>> there any solutions for this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Tim S.
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