Re: Chip Programmers

I have a Dataman-48PRO+ now as well.

When it came to the expensive adapter for the 2708's though, I phoned them up, asked them a couple of questions, explained that I was already pushing my budget as it was for hobby use and by the time I'd umm'd and arr'd a bit they knocked it down by half price (the adapter not the programmer), thus making it nowhere near as expensive :)

That set's then aside for starters in my books. Some companies switch off the minute they realise you're a hobbyist. They did the opposite!

Anyway, I guess that's not really an "if money were no object" programmer as it's only £700 (+17.5% VAT incidentally), but it's still pricey.

Martin.
PS: I honestly thought the new device addition thing was free for life as I remember asking whose life, mine or the programmers :) (the programmers obviously!)

On 2 Jun 2010, at 19:39, Matthew Rossiter wrote:

> I second this (the elnec) - I have the Dataman-48PRO+ which is basically the same thing under a different name. http://www.dataman.com/WebPages/ProductView.aspx?pid=627
> I've sent them quite a few devices to add including the 82S114/5, PLS153, several different variations of static rams simply for testing, and others. The support team is great to work with.
> I have to throw in a big BUT though. You need an expensive adapter to do 2708's and TMS2716's and you need an expensive power supply upgrade for *some* bipolar proms - I haven't had to do that yet.
> It's great for going through a pile of TTL and static ram pulls and weeding out the flakey ones. The programmer can fit nicely in your desk drawer too. :)
>
> The best bang for your buck would still have to be the Data I/O 29B with the unipak if you just want to burn your typical video game roms and bipolar proms.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 6/2/2010 9:25 AM, Tim Matthews wrote:
>> I'd be looking at the top-end of the Elnec range - http://www.elnec.com/.
>> The nicer models seem to be FPGA driven so very upgradeable, the software is
>> nice and very well supported too. I've got a Smartprog2 which is nice but
>> misses out the TTL/RAM testing features (with a device ID check locking out
>> the features in software, so it's possible to hack around it[1]). You'd have
>> to spend a bit of time on the supported device list but the hardware design
>> is such that pretty much anything can be supported.
>>
>> If you supply them with a couple of blanks and a datasheet they will also
>> add progger support. I believe this may exist only whilst your device is
>> under warranty though.
>>
>> cheers
>> tim
>>
>> [1] My first elnec was bought via ebay and was a top-end model that did
>> everything including RAM/TTL/Test vectors. After a couple of months the
>> latest progger software was installed and wiped the FPGA. It turned out the
>> device was a chinese bootleg and elnec disabled it. I eventually obtained a
>> refund from the ebay seller and bought a BK Precision 844USB which is a
>> rebadged elnec, but a slightly less capable model than the bootleg I'd
>> initially bought. Elnec wanted me to spend about £600 to replace my boot
>> with an official version which I thought was too much given my limited
>> requirements, so I went for a model a couple of steps down. And even though
>> this is considered a "lite" version, it's rock solid and has never refused
>> to blow any EPROM)
>>
>> On 2 June 2010 16:59, Kevin Moore<talon.k@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> If money were no object, and you needed something that would program just
>>> about darn near everything. Pals, Gals, PLD's, Old TI eproms, newer eproms.
>>>
>>> What would you get?
>>>
>>> Kevin
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