Re: Samdisk looks very promising...

If anyone could tell me how I can see a directory of a floppy on the 9100 (got my monitor running) I could check all my other disks to see what I have.
What I don't have is an official Fluke 6.1 Service disk, maybe one of the handwritten or blank labelled disks has that....

>From a friend I got two PCI SCSI cards, one Adaptec AHA-2940 the other Adaptec AVA-2904 which I can install in my PC to make an image of my 9100 Harddrive. I'll have to figure out about drivers etc. though, it has been quite some time since I worked with SCSI on my Atari ST.

I could drop a note to Fluke Holland to ask if they still can provide a 6.1 Service disk....

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 27 nov. 2012 om 05:00 heeft "David Shoemaker" <davids@oz.net> het volgende geschreven:

> I have a local friend who works at Fluke. I sent a hail marry mail to him.
> Cross your fingers :)
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com
> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of John Robertson
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:09 PM
> To: techtoolslist@flippers.com
> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Samdisk looks very promising...
>
> David Shoemaker wrote:
>> Do I need the service disk to format my machine to use 6.1?
>
> Unfortunately the answer is Yes - you need a unserialized Service Disc
> for 6.0 or 6.1 to format your drive or CFC card. I don't know if there
> is a workaround other than a good image from a 6.1 drive - like one I
> have but haven't gotten around to uploading to TTL yet. You would need
> to use some image software like Miray's HDClone, or the free(?) Dolly,
> or similar. OSX folks may be able to use the Disk Utility to make the
> image, but you will need SCSI if formatting a drive, but you should be
> able to use one of those USB to IDE adapters otherwise.
>
> I'm not having any luck yet with using a CF and my SCSI to IDE adapter -
> which works fine with hard drives, but can't handle the CF for some
> reason...
>
> Trying to track a copy of Service 6.1 down. Mucking with the Serialized
> copy on TTL gives me CRC errors so I can't fix it easily. Looks like
> each sector is C6Fh in length - not sure where the serial is added
> though...darn.
>
> John :-#)#
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com
>> [mailto:techtoolslist-bounces@flippers.com] On Behalf Of John Robertson
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:20 PM
>> To: Technical Tools Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [Techtoolslist] Samdisk looks very promising...
>>
>> Andre Huijts wrote:
>>
>>> I decided to write back the 6.1 images on my 6.0 floppies because 6.0 is
>> archived and safe anyway.
>>
>>> I succesfully booted the system but it does show errors during boot up.
>> HOWEVER, this also happens with BOTH of the original 6.1 floppies I have.
>>
>>> I believe that (at least some) errors are there because of me removing
> the
>> SCSI cable from the HD. Since the interface is still installed (and maybe
>> some dip-switch setting?) I think the 9100 assumes the HD still to be
>> there....
>>
>>> Anyway, I think Samdisk did a perfect job, the errors are not to blame on
>> the program.
>>
>>> One question:
>>>
>>> I still have another set of 6.0 but it has hand-written "9105" on it. I
>> THINK that this was only just to indicate to which system this set was
>> delivered or that it "belonged" to the 9105.
>>
>>> Can anyone confirm there is no difference between V6.0 for the 9105 and
>> 9100 ?
>>
>>> I can try to boot from those disks and see if that boots error free.
>>>
>>> I could make a video of the boot process.
>> I too have had success with SAMdisk - extracted the TTL original 6.1
>> floppies from the zip file and was able to write them to fresh floppies
>> (with errors ignored by SAMdisk) and then able to boot my 9100FT with
> them.
>>
>> What appears to be serialized is the TTL 9100 6.1 SERVICE disc, these are
>> matched to their machines and I did not work from a backup copy back in
> the
>> early 00s when this discussion was on.
>>
>> I'm going to look inside that file (HexEdit) to see if the serial spot is
>> obvious or not and if so, try setting it to 0000 or FFFF to see if that
>> clears it.
>>
>> John :-#)#
>>
>>> Op 21 nov. 2012, om 19:03 heeft Andre Huijts <a.huijts@upcmail.nl> het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I just deinstalled the special drivers for Omniflop and rebooted my PC,
>> this automatically reinstalled the default windows drivers for the floppy
>> drive.
>>
>>>> Then installed the fdrawcmd.sys file and copied Samdisk to my C: root.
>>>>
>>>> Started a command box and fiddled around with some of the commands.
>>>>
>>>> I got this info when doing the scan command:
>>>>
>>>> 83 Cyls, 2 heads:
>>>> 250Kbps MFM, 16 sectors, 256 bytes/'sector
>>>>
>>>> Then it started a list of what looks like info per track:
>>>> 0.0 0 8 1 9 2 10 3 11 4 12 5 13 6 14 7 15
>>>> 1.0 0 8 1 9 2 10 3 11 4 12 5 13 6 14 7 15
>>>>
>>>> The first digit is the tracknr., the second the headnr. The other nrs
> are
>> the sector numbers.
>>
>>>> All tracks show the same info.
>>>>
>>>> For tracks 80,81,82 it reports <blank> So it looks like the format is
>>>> 80 tracks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also did a "view" command and to my amazement I got to see all the bytes
>> in hex and ASCII per sector.....I could read some info that makes sense so
> I
>> guess at least Samdisk is reading the discs correctly.
>>
>>>> Now making images...
>
>
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