Re: "untested" PCBs...

From: Tek <mypearl_at_dds.nl>
Date: Tue Nov 30 1999 - 12:21:32 EST

Now we're talking about a way to take the fun out of the business...
That never crossed my mind,but it sounds very logically when you see all
the guys selling
multiple boards...

Al Warner wrote:
>
> I'd like to put my reputation on the line here a sec. I've got a decent rating (48)
> but I recently did a few sales that I'm not proud of. I got a large pile of boards
> and sold them on eBay. Some of the regular readers of this list won some of them.
> Anyway, during the second wave of checks showing up, my life went nuts, I took the
> family to Disney World, I helped my company move the entire business 5 miles, it was
> crazy. Needless to say, it took a while for some of the items to be shipped. The
> level of service I gave was far below what it should have been and much less than I
> will ever do again. Let's say that in this moment of weakness, someone left me bad
> feedback. I'd say I deserved it. Now, I had 50+ people who said I was the best guy
> in the world, but I had a bad time and I had someone who thought otherwise.
> Situations change for some people and I think people know that. I kept up on the
> e-mails so, people knew I was just having trouble. What I see in this particular
> case is a trend where multiple boards are being sold, sometimes the same board to
> different people. They are e-mailing each other because of the problems. How a guy
> handles the situation should give you a clue. Multiple "Lost in the mails" , yeah
> right. He's maximizing the auctions by selling them to the highest bidder on
> multiple auctions. Let's say I have a Tempest board for sale (I don't so don't
> ask). I start a 5 day auction for it today and in 3 days, I start another one for
> the same board for another 5 days. Winner 1 pays $70 and Winner 2 pays $100. When
> the checks arrive, which one do I cash, hmmmm. Looks like Winner 1's is getting lost
> in the mail. Heck I'm a nice guy, I'll avoid mail fraud and give him his money back
> until I can sort out the details. Now I'm a real nice guy, right? I didn't rip
> anybody off and I gave a refund for products that someone else lost for me. So I
> guess I'm more of a hero. The good feedback is on the way. Maybe I'm just being
> cynical, but it smells bad to me.
>
> Al "eBay awarner" Warner
>
> PS - I've never sold the same thing twice, I did have two of the same board for sale
> at one time, but neither were sold. I'm just applying a devious mind to the
> situation. And I Ob Vectored the example pretty well too I think.
>
> Tek wrote:
>
> > I agree on these points. I can imagine people are reluctant to enter
> > negative feedback, to prevent getting the same back.
> >
> > But there's a difference between NOT giving negative feedback and a HUGE
> > list of EXELLENT, A+++, WOULD TRADE AGAIN, FAST SHIPMENT blablabla
> > ect... That just don't add up to me...
> >
> > For example. If everybody is unhappy with, lets say, MR X, there might
> > not be negative feedback, but there IS a lot of hoorays... How come?
> >
> > Cya !
> >
> > Andrew Wilson wrote:
> >
> > > People are *really* leery to give negative feedback. I don't think
> > > people are worried about slander - I think it's that it's common to
> > > have the recipient turn around and give you negative feedback right back, which
> > > slams your own rating.
> > >
> > > Also, unless the seller just walks away from the deal with your
> > > money, it's usually kind of a gray area. Did they rip you off, or are they
> > > just guilty of bad packaging and bad luck with the P.O.? Especially if the
> > > seller makes sympathetic noises or even tries to make good on the deal in some
> > > way - it gets really tough to post negative feedback on them. Even in the case
> > > posted here, I'd personally be hard pressed to post more than a neutral
> > > feedback on them, pointing out the bad packaging and the fact that they have
> > > claimed that the P.O. lost the packages for multiple buyers.
> > >
> > > It's kind of a catch-22. If you post negative feedback on a
> > > seller, you pretty much kiss any chance of resolving the matter in a friendly
> > > manner goodbye. And once you've resolved the matter, it becomes kinda spiteful
> > > to post neg feedback, since you've ostensibly resolved the matter to your
> > > mutual satisfaction. The most I generally can do in those cases is post a
> > > neutral, like I said above.
> > >
> > > Drew
>
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Received on Tue Nov 30 11:23:18 1999

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